Pablo has done a really nice job pulling together information on the DNIe, including meeting with many of the stakeholders in the project. Name, of course, have been stripped for confidentiality reasons in the thesis, but he wasn’t speaking with junior people. The off hand comments that didn’t get into the thesis are terrifying (even more terrifying than some that are in it!), along the lines of ‘it’s inevitable that this is coming to Europe: we have money, can sell it rhetorically, and the military complex is well coordinated throughout the nations whereas advocates who might oppose it are not’.